Dale Webster
Dale Webster is Director of Research at Google Health working to improve patient outcomes in healthcare using Deep Learning and Medical Imaging. His recent work leverages AI to screen for Diabetic Retinopathy in India and Thailand, predict Cardiovascular health factors from fundus photos, differential diagnosis of skin disease, and applications of medically tuned LLMs. Prior to Google he was a Software Engineer at Pacific Biosciences working on direct sequencing of methylation state and rapid sequencing and assembly of microbial pathogens during global outbreaks. His PhD work in Bioinformatics at the University of California San Francisco focused on viral evolution, and he received his Bachelor of Science in Computer Science from Rice University.
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Searching for Dermatology Information Online using Images vs Text: a Randomized Study
Jay Hartford
Amit Talreja
Natalie Salaets
Kimberley Raiford
Jay Nayar
Dounia Berrada
Harsh Kharbanda
Lou Wang
Peggy Bui
medRxiv (2024)
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Background: Skin conditions are extremely common worldwide, and are an important cause of both anxiety and morbidity. Since the advent of the internet, individuals have used text-based search (eg, “red rash on arm”) to learn more about concerns on their skin, but this process is often hindered by the inability to accurately describe the lesion’s morphology. In the study, we surveyed respondents’ experiences with an image-based search, compared to the traditional text-based search experience.
Methods: An internet-based survey was conducted to evaluate the experience of text-based vs image-based search for skin conditions. We recruited respondents from an existing cohort of volunteers in a commercial survey panel; survey respondents that met inclusion/exclusion criteria, including willingness to take photos of a visible concern on their body, were enrolled. Respondents were asked to use the Google mobile app to conduct both regular text-based search (Google Search) and image-based search (Google Lens) for their concern, with the order of text vs. image search randomized. Satisfaction for each search experience along six different dimensions were recorded and compared, and respondents’ preferences for the different search types along these same six dimensions were recorded.
Results: 372 respondents were enrolled in the study, with 44% self-identifying as women, 86% as White and 41% over age 45. The rate of respondents who were at least moderately familiar with searching for skin conditions using text-based search versus image-based search were 81.5% and 63.5%, respectively. After using both search modalities, respondents were highly satisfied with both image-based and text-based search, with >90% at least somewhat satisfied in each dimension and no significant differences seen between text-based and image-based search when examining the responses on an absolute scale per search modality. When asked to directly rate their preferences in a comparative way, survey respondents preferred image-based search over text-based search in 5 out of 6 dimensions, with an absolute 9.9% more preferring image-based search over text-based search overall (p=0.004). 82.5% (95% CI 78.2 - 86.3) reported a preference to leverage image-based search (alone or in combination with text-based search) in future searches. Of those who would prefer to use a combination of both, 64% indicated they would like to start with image-based search, indicating that image-based search may be the preferred entry point for skin-related searches.
Conclusion: Despite being less familiar with image-based search upon study inception, survey respondents generally preferred image-based search to text-based search and overwhelmingly wanted to include this in future searches. These results suggest the potential for image-based search to play a key role in people searching for information regarding skin concerns.
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Health equity assessment of machine learning performance (HEAL): a framework and dermatology AI model case study
Terry Spitz
Malcolm Chelliah
Heather Cole-Lewis
Stephanie Farquhar
Qinghan Xue
Jenna Lester
Cían Hughes
Patricia Strachan
Fraser Tan
Peggy Bui
Craig Mermel
Lily Peng
Sunny Virmani
Ivor Horn
Cameron Chen
The Lancet eClinicalMedicine (2024)
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Background
Artificial intelligence (AI) has repeatedly been shown to encode historical inequities in healthcare. We aimed to develop a framework to quantitatively assess the performance equity of health AI technologies and to illustrate its utility via a case study.
Methods
Here, we propose a methodology to assess whether health AI technologies prioritise performance for patient populations experiencing worse outcomes, that is complementary to existing fairness metrics. We developed the Health Equity Assessment of machine Learning performance (HEAL) framework designed to quantitatively assess the performance equity of health AI technologies via a four-step interdisciplinary process to understand and quantify domain-specific criteria, and the resulting HEAL metric. As an illustrative case study (analysis conducted between October 2022 and January 2023), we applied the HEAL framework to a dermatology AI model. A set of 5420 teledermatology cases (store-and-forward cases from patients of 20 years or older, submitted from primary care providers in the USA and skin cancer clinics in Australia), enriched for diversity in age, sex and race/ethnicity, was used to retrospectively evaluate the AI model's HEAL metric, defined as the likelihood that the AI model performs better for subpopulations with worse average health outcomes as compared to others. The likelihood that AI performance was anticorrelated to pre-existing health outcomes was estimated using bootstrap methods as the probability that the negated Spearman's rank correlation coefficient (i.e., “R”) was greater than zero. Positive values of R suggest that subpopulations with poorer health outcomes have better AI model performance. Thus, the HEAL metric, defined as p (R >0), measures how likely the AI technology is to prioritise performance for subpopulations with worse average health outcomes as compared to others (presented as a percentage below). Health outcomes were quantified as disability-adjusted life years (DALYs) when grouping by sex and age, and years of life lost (YLLs) when grouping by race/ethnicity. AI performance was measured as top-3 agreement with the reference diagnosis from a panel of 3 dermatologists per case.
Findings
Across all dermatologic conditions, the HEAL metric was 80.5% for prioritizing AI performance of racial/ethnic subpopulations based on YLLs, and 92.1% and 0.0% respectively for prioritizing AI performance of sex and age subpopulations based on DALYs. Certain dermatologic conditions were significantly associated with greater AI model performance compared to a reference category of less common conditions. For skin cancer conditions, the HEAL metric was 73.8% for prioritizing AI performance of age subpopulations based on DALYs.
Interpretation
Analysis using the proposed HEAL framework showed that the dermatology AI model prioritised performance for race/ethnicity, sex (all conditions) and age (cancer conditions) subpopulations with respect to pre-existing health disparities. More work is needed to investigate ways of promoting equitable AI performance across age for non-cancer conditions and to better understand how AI models can contribute towards improving equity in health outcomes.
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Conversational AI in health: Design considerations from a Wizard-of-Oz dermatology case study with users, clinicians and a medical LLM
Brenna Li
Amy Wang
Patricia Strachan
Julie Anne Seguin
Sami Lachgar
Karyn Schroeder
Renee Wong
Extended Abstracts of the 2024 CHI Conference on Human Factors in Computing Systems, Association for Computing Machinery, pp. 10
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Although skin concerns are common, access to specialist care is limited. Artificial intelligence (AI)-assisted tools to support medical decisions may provide patients with feedback on their concerns while also helping ensure the most urgent cases are routed to dermatologists. Although AI-based conversational agents have been explored recently, how they are perceived by patients and clinicians is not well understood. We conducted a Wizard-of-Oz study involving 18 participants with real skin concerns. Participants were randomly assigned to interact with either a clinician agent (portrayed by a dermatologist) or an LLM agent (supervised by a dermatologist) via synchronous multimodal chat. In both conditions, participants found the conversation to be helpful in understanding their medical situation and alleviate their concerns. Through qualitative coding of the conversation transcripts, we provide insight on the importance of empathy and effective information-seeking. We conclude with design considerations for future AI-based conversational agents in healthcare settings.
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Towards Generalist Biomedical AI
Danny Driess
Andrew Carroll
Chuck Lau
Ryutaro Tanno
Ira Ktena
Anil Palepu
Basil Mustafa
Aakanksha Chowdhery
Simon Kornblith
Philip Mansfield
Sushant Prakash
Renee Wong
Sunny Virmani
Sara Mahdavi
Bradley Green
Ewa Dominowska
Joelle Barral
Karan Singhal
Pete Florence
NEJM AI (2024)
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BACKGROUND: Medicine is inherently multimodal, requiring the simultaneous interpretation and integration of insights between many data modalities spanning text, imaging, genomics, and more. Generalist biomedical artificial intelligence systems that flexibly encode, integrate, and interpret these data might better enable impactful applications ranging from scientific discovery to care delivery.
METHODS: To catalyze development of these models, we curated MultiMedBench, a new multimodal biomedical benchmark. MultiMedBench encompasses 14 diverse tasks, such as medical question answering, mammography and dermatology image interpretation, radiology report generation and summarization, and genomic variant calling. We then introduced Med-PaLM Multimodal (Med-PaLM M), our proof of concept for a generalist biomedical AI system that flexibly encodes and interprets biomedical data including clinical language, imaging, and genomics with the same set of model weights. To further probe the capabilities and limitations of Med-PaLM M, we conducted a radiologist evaluation of model-generated (and human) chest x-ray reports.
RESULTS: We observed encouraging performance across model scales. Med-PaLM M reached performance competitive with or exceeding the state of the art on all MultiMedBench tasks, often surpassing specialist models by a wide margin. In a side-by-side ranking on 246 retrospective chest x-rays, clinicians expressed a pairwise preference for Med-PaLM Multimodal reports over those produced by radiologists in up to 40.50% of cases, suggesting potential clinical utility.
CONCLUSIONS: Although considerable work is needed to validate these models in real-world cases and understand if cross-modality generalization is possible, our results represent a milestone toward the development of generalist biomedical artificial intelligence systems.
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An intentional approach to managing bias in embedding models
Atilla P. Kiraly
Jungyeon Park
Rory Pilgrim
Charles Lau
Heather Cole-Lewis
Shravya Shetty
Krish Eswaran
Leo Anthony Celi
The Lancet Digital Health, 6 (2024), E126-E130
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Advances in machine learning for health care have brought concerns about bias from the research community; specifically, the introduction, perpetuation, or exacerbation of care disparities. Reinforcing these concerns is the finding that medical images often reveal signals about sensitive attributes in ways that are hard to pinpoint by both algorithms and people. This finding raises a question about how to best design general purpose pretrained embeddings (GPPEs, defined as embeddings meant to support a broad array of use cases) for building downstream models that are free from particular types of bias. The downstream model should be carefully evaluated for bias, and audited and improved as appropriate. However, in our view, well intentioned attempts to prevent the upstream components—GPPEs—from learning sensitive attributes can have unintended consequences on the downstream models. Despite producing a veneer of technical neutrality, the resultant end-to-end system might still be biased or poorly performing. We present reasons, by building on previously published data, to support the reasoning that GPPEs should ideally contain as much information as the original data contain, and highlight the perils of trying to remove sensitive attributes from a GPPE. We also emphasise that downstream prediction models trained for specific tasks and settings, whether developed using GPPEs or not, should be carefully designed and evaluated to avoid bias that makes models vulnerable to issues such as distributional shift. These evaluations should be done by a diverse team, including social scientists, on a diverse cohort representing the full breadth of the patient population for which the final model is intended.
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Differences between Patient and Clinician Submitted Images: Implications for Virtual Care of Skin Conditions
Rajeev Rikhye
Grace Eunhae Hong
Margaret Ann Smith
Aaron Loh
Vijaytha Muralidharan
Doris Wong
Michelle Phung
Nicolas Betancourt
Bradley Fong
Rachna Sahasrabudhe
Khoban Nasim
Alec Eschholz
Kat Chou
Peggy Bui
Justin Ko
Steven Lin
Mayo Clinic Proceedings: Digital Health (2024)
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Objective: To understand and highlight the differences in clinical, demographic, and image quality characteristics between patient-taken (PAT) and clinic-taken (CLIN) photographs of skin conditions.
Patients and Methods: This retrospective study applied logistic regression to data from 2500 deidentified cases in Stanford Health Care’s eConsult system, from November 2015 to January 2021. Cases with undiagnosable or multiple conditions or cases with both patient and clinician image sources were excluded, leaving 628 PAT cases and 1719 CLIN cases. Demographic characteristic factors, such as age and sex were self-reported, whereas anatomic location, estimated skin type, clinical signs and symptoms, condition duration, and condition frequency were summarized from patient health records. Image quality variables such as blur, lighting issues and whether the image contained skin, hair, or nails were estimated through a deep learning model.
Results: Factors that were positively associated with CLIN photographs, post-2020 were as follows: age 60 years or older, darker skin types (eFST V/VI), and presence of skin growths. By contrast, factors that were positively associated with PAT photographs include conditions appearing intermittently, cases with blurry photographs, photographs with substantial nonskin (or nail/hair) regions and cases with more than 3 photographs. Within the PAT cohort, older age was associated with blurry photographs.
Conclusion: There are various demographic, clinical, and image quality characteristic differences between PAT and CLIN photographs of skin concerns. The demographic characteristic differences present important considerations for improving digital literacy or access, whereas the image quality differences point to the need for improved patient education and better image capture workflows, particularly among elderly patients.
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Crowdsourcing Dermatology Images with Google Search Ads: Creating a Diverse and Representative Dataset of Real-World Skin Conditions
Abbi Ward
Ashley Carrick
Dawn Siegel
Jay Hartford
Jimmy Li
Julie Wang
Justin Ko
Pradeep Kumar S
Renee Wong
Sriram Lakshminarasimhan
Steven Lin
Sunny Virmani
arXiv (2024)
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Background
Health datasets from clinical sources do not reflect the breadth and diversity of disease in the real world, impacting research, medical education and artificial intelligence (AI) tool development. Dermatology is a suitable area to develop and test a new and scalable method to create representative health datasets.
Methods
We used Google Search advertisements to solicit contributions of images of dermatology conditions, demographic and symptom information from internet users in the United States (US) over 265 days starting March 2023. With informed contributor consent, we described and released this dataset containing 10,106 images from 5058 contributions, with dermatologist labels as well as Fitzpatrick Skin Type and Monk Skin Tone labels for the images.
Results
We received 22 ± 14 submissions/day over 265 days. Female contributors (66.04%) and younger individuals (52.3% < age 40) had a higher representation in the dataset compared to the US population, and 36.6% of contributors had a non-White racial or ethnic identity. Over 97.5% of contributions were genuine images of skin conditions. Image quality had no impact on dermatologist confidence in assigning a differential diagnosis. The dataset consists largely of short duration (54% with onset < 7 days ago) allergic, infectious, and inflammatory conditions. Fitzpatrick skin type distribution is well-balanced, considering the geographical origin of the dataset and the absence of enrichment for population groups or skin tones.
Interpretation
Search ads are effective at crowdsourcing images of health conditions. The SCIN dataset bridges important gaps in the availability of representative images of common skin conditions.
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A deep learning model for novel systemic biomarkers in photographs of the external eye: a retrospective study
Ilana Traynis
Christina Chen
Akib Uddin
Jorge Cuadros
Lauren P. Daskivich
April Y. Maa
Ramasamy Kim
Eugene Yu-Chuan Kang
Lily Peng
Avinash Varadarajan
The Lancet Digital Health (2023)
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Background
Photographs of the external eye were recently shown to reveal signs of diabetic retinal disease and elevated glycated haemoglobin. This study aimed to test the hypothesis that external eye photographs contain information about additional systemic medical conditions.
Methods
We developed a deep learning system (DLS) that takes external eye photographs as input and predicts systemic parameters, such as those related to the liver (albumin, aspartate aminotransferase [AST]); kidney (estimated glomerular filtration rate [eGFR], urine albumin-to-creatinine ratio [ACR]); bone or mineral (calcium); thyroid (thyroid stimulating hormone); and blood (haemoglobin, white blood cells [WBC], platelets). This DLS was trained using 123 130 images from 38 398 patients with diabetes undergoing diabetic eye screening in 11 sites across Los Angeles county, CA, USA. Evaluation focused on nine prespecified systemic parameters and leveraged three validation sets (A, B, C) spanning 25 510 patients with and without diabetes undergoing eye screening in three independent sites in Los Angeles county, CA, and the greater Atlanta area, GA, USA. We compared performance against baseline models incorporating available clinicodemographic variables (eg, age, sex, race and ethnicity, years with diabetes).
Findings
Relative to the baseline, the DLS achieved statistically significant superior performance at detecting AST >36.0 U/L, calcium <8.6 mg/dL, eGFR <60.0 mL/min/1.73 m2, haemoglobin <11.0 g/dL, platelets <150.0 × 103/μL, ACR ≥300 mg/g, and WBC <4.0 × 103/μL on validation set A (a population resembling the development datasets), with the area under the receiver operating characteristic curve (AUC) of the DLS exceeding that of the baseline by 5.3–19.9% (absolute differences in AUC). On validation sets B and C, with substantial patient population differences compared with the development datasets, the DLS outperformed the baseline for ACR ≥300.0 mg/g and haemoglobin <11.0 g/dL by 7.3–13.2%.
Interpretation
We found further evidence that external eye photographs contain biomarkers spanning multiple organ systems. Such biomarkers could enable accessible and non-invasive screening of disease. Further work is needed to understand the translational implications.
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Pathologist Validation of a Machine Learning–Derived Feature for Colon Cancer Risk Stratification
Vincenzo L’Imperio
Markus Plass
Heimo Müller
Nicolò Tamini
Luca Gianotti
Nicola Zucchini
Robert Reihs
Lily Peng
Cameron Chen
Marialuisa Lavitrano
David F. Steiner
Kurt Zatloukal
Fabio Pagni
JAMA Network Open (2023)
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Importance: Identifying new prognostic features in colon cancer has the potential to refine histopathologic review and inform patient care. Although prognostic artificial intelligence systems have recently demonstrated significant risk stratification for several cancer types, studies have not yet shown that the machine learning–derived features associated with these prognostic artificial intelligence systems are both interpretable and usable by pathologists.
Objective: To evaluate whether pathologist scoring of a histopathologic feature previously identified by machine learning is associated with survival among patients with colon cancer.
Design, Setting, and Participants: This prognostic study used deidentified, archived colorectal cancer cases from January 2013 to December 2015 from the University of Milano-Bicocca. All available histologic slides from 258 consecutive colon adenocarcinoma cases were reviewed from December 2021 to February 2022 by 2 pathologists, who conducted semiquantitative scoring for tumor adipose feature (TAF), which was previously identified via a prognostic deep learning model developed with an independent colorectal cancer cohort.
Main Outcomes and Measures: Prognostic value of TAF for overall survival and disease-specific survival as measured by univariable and multivariable regression analyses. Interpathologist agreement in TAF scoring was also evaluated.
Results: A total of 258 colon adenocarcinoma histopathologic cases from 258 patients (138 men [53%]; median age, 67 years [IQR, 65-81 years]) with stage II (n = 119) or stage III (n = 139) cancer were included. Tumor adipose feature was identified in 120 cases (widespread in 63 cases, multifocal in 31, and unifocal in 26). For overall survival analysis after adjustment for tumor stage, TAF was independently prognostic in 2 ways: TAF as a binary feature (presence vs absence: hazard ratio [HR] for presence of TAF, 1.55 [95% CI, 1.07-2.25]; P = .02) and TAF as a semiquantitative categorical feature (HR for widespread TAF, 1.87 [95% CI, 1.23-2.85]; P = .004). Interpathologist agreement for widespread TAF vs lower categories (absent, unifocal, or multifocal) was 90%, corresponding to a κ metric at this threshold of 0.69 (95% CI, 0.58-0.80).
Conclusions and Relevance: In this prognostic study, pathologists were able to learn and reproducibly score for TAF, providing significant risk stratification on this independent data set. Although additional work is warranted to understand the biological significance of this feature and to establish broadly reproducible TAF scoring, this work represents the first validation to date of human expert learning from machine learning in pathology. Specifically, this validation demonstrates that a computationally identified histologic feature can represent a human-identifiable, prognostic feature with the potential for integration into pathology practice.
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Lessons learned from translating AI from development to deployment in healthcare
Sunny Virmani
Jay Nayar
Elin Rønby Pedersen
Divleen Jeji
Lily Peng
Nature Medicine (2023)
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The application of an artificial intelligence (AI)-based screening tool for retinal disease in India and Thailand highlighted the myths and reality of introducing medical AI, which may form a framework for subsequent tools.
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